Maybe I should also say that we are God Mind in manifestation, so God does speak through us ( please I use the term God also with much hesitation ) so let it just be ... whether we are being spiritual or criminals it is all God Mind reflecting itself and its potential for being conscious of ' itself' Really it is no different to what is happening to us on a much smaller almost microscopic level compared to its boundlessness. When we meditate we are entering the god mind meditation .. and when we leave that state we enter the god mind in action.. do not separate oneself from god mind because THAT is the illusion and the cause of problems.

LOL I said He instead of IT.!!!

All being is consciousness---True, but All being is not God Consciousness.....Man is the seed creation of God consciousness-----.... ...if you were created from an apple seed in the infinite consciousness, we would all have been appearing as apples in this universe along with it's specific principles for full fruition.....The principles for man's full fruition are all related to the qualities of love...How do we know God's thoughts and messages? Because we innately know how to love....We know at our core, not like an apple core, about love.... We are all God's perfect ideas and as we realize this, realize our true seeded divine nature in God, the false sense of sin, disease and death will disappear..... to try and claim Cosmic consciousness before fully understanding and demonstrating Divine Consciousness is like saying 1+1 =3..... The Anglo Saxon term for God is Good with a capitol G.....(so Kay say God all you want...) .WE loose all sense of evil in God consciousness and we don't suffer and we are not sick and poor in God Consciousness- God consciousness is immortal , harmonious and expresses all that is Good.......and it knows itself only to be good..... God's thoughts are not mortal thoughts.....We will know the messages of God as we awaken to our True nature in God consciousness.... Love Gyanama

Bit of further advice.....don't dwell on either side of the line, either ;)

Walk a fine line...and draw a line in the sand....dare u!

My impression on God is this and this is an observation and my own opinion...you are alive and you are the experience of GOD you are dead and you are fertilizer for someone to become the experience of GOD all over again...my opinion..end of statement with one hand clapping....

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My line is potentially and actually generating a field. There is no left and right, only infinite all round choice......my choices groping to find coherence with all other orchestral choice.......said he, blowing his own trumpet ;) Beat that drum, Kay, m'fine lady. ed

When we speak in terms of the physical world then we can use concepts and ideas , intents and desires and they all are all subject to cosmic or universal laws, cause and effect and a certain sense or order and logic. BUT when we take away this form, then ordinary logic ceases to be of any use to us as do any physical laws. So it is impossible to speak of it or presume to know it in the same way that we know things in this material existence. Here it enters the quantum realm and really I don't think that the human brain can logically process it and write books about it. maybe I am wrong ..I am pretty sure that some part of my awareness is using it but I don't think that brain has much conscious knowledge of it.. or maybe a little glimpse every now and then with all the synchronicities that happen all the time.... That is basically as far as I have got presently on this earthly merry go round :) I suppose that the most I can say is that non form exists in potential state ..but not in fact and as complex matter... at this point my brain is almost sure that the is a sub atomic rather than cosmic although there is as far as I am concerned no difference between the two . I am not qualified to say on more on this level :) I have a sneaky suspicion that it is at the unconscious level of brain / mind that the subatomic and quantum field are weaving their ' magic' and which is why we have a problem knowing it or consciously manipulating it.

But, but, but, Kay....now you seem to be dwelling on 'sanity's' side. Okay, so maybe my mini representation was in sane enough to evoke that. I was hopeful you would share the dynamic.......action 'here' is either and or according to Kali! Oh God, now Bob's turned up..... his nose ;) ed

Hey Kay, off-thread, did you ever grace the halls of Michael Brown's Presence Process? Just a-wondrin'

Ed, then by all means, pluck it out--the eye, not the mud. We need more one-eyed people to lead the blind!

well I sure as hell am not the ' Insani Kamil hehe.. i am insanely sane most days or is that the other way ? if you take yourself out of the equation there are no lefts and rights or ups and downs anyway

hehe now THAT must be a message from God.. good to see that its now the time of the dancers.. about time - any longer and I would be dead That article is really quite bizarre.. I don't mix with any cults groups institutions religions.. I am all alone here with my mind :) and google

i have a personal preference for trigrams 1 2 and 11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching_hexagram_11 I know this sounds naive but I always see trigram one as the bricks and then the hand chops through to give no 2- the force of god flows through to the earth.. but I am no I Ching expert - it is purely a personal marker that I made :) Almost as if the heavens were rent into two ( duality )